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- From: fnf@fishpond.ninemoons.com (Fred Fish)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: Update to Native Developer Kit 3.1: Request for ideas
- Date: 21 Feb 1996 04:25:42 GMT
- Organization: Cronus
- Message-ID: <4ge6s6$b3q@globe.indirect.com>
- References: <4fs120$7hj@sinsen.sn.no> <xJ0aZMD42DalzB@j-plewka.amtrash.comlink.de>
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- In article <xJ0aZMD42DalzB@j-plewka.amtrash.comlink.de>,
- Joern Plewka <J_Plewka@Amtrash.comlink.de> wrote:
- >A working compiler is required...
- >
- >SAS was frozen and won`t be available for PPC, AFAIK.
- >Maxon doesn`t work very nice..it crashes much to often.
- >StormC is nice in design but I wouldn`t have released such unstable demo.
- >
- >There is nothing for PPC this time...programming Amiga`s stuff on MAC is a
- >little strange;-((
-
- The ADE (Amiga Developers Environment) source can be configured to
- produce PPC code in AmigaDOS hunk containers. This took all of about
- one afternoon to do with my current (internal test only) source tree,
- using ELF as the object file format. These changes should be in the
- next ADE snapshot, which I hope to make available in about 3 weeks.
- Work is also underway to switch to AmigaDOS hunk format for the object
- file format, for both m68k and possibly PPC, though I'm reluctant to
- spend much time trying to bring up a PPC toolchain using AmigaDOS hunk
- format as the object format, when it seems probable that AT won't use
- that format on the PPC.
-
- There also isn't much sense in spending a lot of time trying to build
- suitable runtimes for the PPC toolchain since nobody knows what the
- PowerPC Amiga runtime will look like. Or if they do, they aren't
- sharing it with anyone else. :-(
-
- For now though, the current PPC compiler is interesting for doing
- mostly educational things, like compiling your favorite routines
- and examining the resulting assembly to get familiar with the
- PPC instruction set, or possibly running your favorite benchmark
- through the compiler to compare code sizes and efficiency with
- the m68k version.
-
- These is also the PPC simulator in gdb that might be interesting to
- expand to work in the m68k Amiga environment, in which case it would
- be theoretically possible to produce PPC AmigaDOS programs that
- actually do something on an m68k Amiga when run inside the simulator.
-
- See ftp.ninemoons.com:pub/ade/... for more info.
-
- -Fred
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